Sony Cyber-shot DSC-F717 vs Sony Cyber-shot DSC-F828

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Cyber-shot DSC-F717 compared with Cyber-shot DSC-F828
SonyCyber-shot DSC-F717SonyCyber-shot DSC-F828
Overview
ReleasedOctober 2002December 2003
Image and sensor
Camera typeBridgeBridge
Sensor format2/3-type2/3-type
Sensor typeCCDCCD
Effective resolution5 MP8 MP
Largest image2560 × 19203264 × 2448
RAW recordingNoYes
Standard ISO range100–80064–800
Sensor detail2/3-type Super HAD CCD with primary-colour filter; maker rounded effective and total sensor counts are 5.0 and 5.2 million. The native 2560 × 1920 image contains approximately 4.92 million pixels; the original press table prints 2590 in error, resolved by the maker operating manual2/3-type four-colour Super HAD interlaced CCD, using red, green, blue and emerald filters; maker 8.0 million effective versus 8.3 million total photosites; native 3264 × 2448 image contains approximately 7.99 million pixels; 14-bit conversion
Image formatsFine or Standard JPEG, uncompressed TIFF with accompanying JPEG and GIF Clip Motion; no RAW formatJPEG Fine or Standard, TIFF and SRF RAW; RAW and TIFF also record a JPEG companion
Lens and shooting
Built-in lens38–190 mm equivalent28–200 mm equivalent
Maximum aperturef/2–2.4f/2–2.8
Optical zoom5×7×
Lens detailCarl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar; actual 9.7–48.5 mm, 38–190 mm equivalent; f/2–2.4 maximum aperture; 58 mm filter thread; electronic ring controls zoom in autofocus mode or manual focusCarl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T*; actual 7.1–51 mm, equivalent 28–200 mm; f/2–2.8 maximum aperture; 12 elements in nine groups with three aspherical elements; seven-blade aperture; 58 mm filter thread; mechanical zoom and separate electronic manual-focus rings
AutofocusThree-area automatic selection or five manually selectable autofocus areas, with Hologram AF assistance; focus from 0.5 m wide or 0.9 m telephoto, wide-angle macro from 0.02 mContrast autofocus with Hologram AF assistance, multi-point, centre and flexible spot areas; single, monitor or continuous focus; wide normal focus from 0.5 m, telephoto from 0.6 m, wide macro from 0.02 m
ShutterSony Japan specifies 30–1/2000 second in automatic/program modes and 30–1/1000 second in shutter priority or manual modes; DPReview notes program mode limits slower exposures to 1/30 secondSony Japan original table gives 1/8–1/3200 second automatic, 1–1/3200 program and 30–1/2000 shutter priority/manual. The later UK support table lists 30–1/3200 for manual; main detail follows original launch table, corroborated by DPReview
Burst detailThree full-resolution frames per burst; maker advanced manual specifies approximately 0.5 second intervals. DPReview measured 2.5 fps for three JPEGs with a subsequent write pause; no sustained rate is used as a headlineSeven full-resolution JPEG frames maximum. Maker UK table gives 0.38/0.42-second burst intervals; DPReview measured 2.6 fps Speed Burst and 2.4 fps Framing Burst, while digitalkamera.de measured 3/2.7 fps. No inferred sustained headline rate
FlashAutomatic pop-up flash, hot shoe and ACC connector; external flashes operate with manual exposure settingsPop-up flash, Advanced Accessory Shoe and ACC connector; maker range 0.5–4.5 m wide and 0.6–3.3 m telephoto; optional HVL-F32X flash
Exposure controlsAutomatic, program, aperture priority, shutter priority and manual exposure; ±2 EV in 1/3 EV steps; multi-pattern, centre-weighted and spot metering; live histogram; NightShot infrared photography and NightFraming composition followed by normal-colour flash captureAutomatic, program, aperture priority, shutter priority and manual modes; ±2 EV in 1/3 EV steps; Real or Standard colour, three-level saturation, contrast and sharpening controls; histogram; NightShot and NightFraming
Video
Highest video resolution320 × 240640 × 480 at 30 fps
Video detailMPEG-1 with sound; 320 × 240 HQX or standard video, and 160 × 112 video-mail mode, limited by storage capacity. DPReview documents 16 fps HQX and 8 fps standard modes; maker launch table does not publish frame rateMPEG-1 with audio; 640 × 480 Fine at 30 fps requires Memory Stick PRO or Microdrive, rather than ordinary CompactFlash or Memory Stick. Lower-rate standard VGA and 160 × 112 video-mail modes are separate
AudioMovie audio and still-image voice annotationsMovie sound and still-image voice annotations
Screen and viewfinder
ViewfinderElectronicElectronic
Screen size1.8″1.8″
Screen dots123,000134,000
Tilting screenYesYes
Display detail1.8-inch TFT LCD with 123,000 dots and maker-stated 100% coverage; 180,000-dot electronic viewfinder. Lens/body joint rotates up 77° or down 36°; tilting describes this joint rather than an independently hinged LCD1.8-inch 134,000-dot rear TFT LCD and 235,000-dot electronic viewfinder, both maker-stated 100% coverage; backlit top status display. Body/lens joint rotates up 70° or down 30°; tilting refers to that joint
Connections and design
Battery life (maker's claim)410 photographs370 photographs
Body weight586 g (better)832 g
Release detailSony Japan's 3 September 2002 announcement specifies 12 October 2002 sale; this is the documented Japanese date, without assuming the same international first daySony Japan original 16 September 2003 announcement states 19 December 2003 sale; documented Japanese first-sale date, distinct from the earlier August international announcement
Recording mediaMemory Stick; supplied 32 MB card. The later Sony advanced manual also lists Memory Stick PRO MSX-256, MSX-512 and MSX-1G recording capacities; launch reviews describe the contemporary 128 MB limitSeparate Memory Stick/Memory Stick PRO slot and CompactFlash Type I/II/Microdrive slot; Duo formats use adapter; FAT16/FAT32; no memory card included
PortsMini-B USB 2.0, NTSC/PAL composite AV output, DC input and ACC connector; DPReview measured USB transfer at approximately 1.2 MB/sHi-Speed USB 2.0 Mini-B, NTSC/PAL AV output, DC input, ACC connector and flash accessory shoe; PictBridge printing
Battery life detailNP-FM50 InfoLithium; maker standard claim approximately 410 photographs or 205 minutes, using Fine quality, LCD on, alternating full zoom, flash every other shot, power cycling every ten shots and a photograph every 30 seconds. The separate 3,000-image/210-minute continuous VGA LCD-off flash-off claim is not the headline ratingSupplied NP-FM50 InfoLithium; Sony UK normal-shooting claim 370 shots or 185 minutes. DPReview measured 540 shots/5 hours 28 minutes in its own repeated four-no-flash/one-flash test; this is separate from the maker headline
DimensionsApproximately 119.5 × 68.9 × 151 mm (width × height × depth), excluding protrusionsApproximately 134.4 × 91.1 × 157.2 mm (width × height × depth), at wide zoom
Weight detailApproximately 586 g camera only; maker specifies 696 g with battery, Memory Stick, shoulder strap and lens cap. DPReview gives a different 659 g loaded figure; main weight follows the maker body-only specificationApproximately 832 g camera only; Sony Japan specifies 955 g with battery, Memory Stick, shoulder strap and lens cap. Review loaded weights differ (DPReview 906 g, digitalkamera.de 942 g); main uses maker body-only figure
In the boxJapanese kit includes 32 MB Memory Stick, NP-FM50 battery, AC adapter, USB and AV cables, lens cap, shoulder strap and software CDNP-FM50 battery, AC adapter and power cable, AV and USB cables, shoulder strap, lens cap and strap, lens hood and software CDs; no memory card

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